发信人: k50 (a new life), 信区: ChinaNews
标 题: 一个外国教授拒信(zz from LQQM)
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Mar 31 13:12:32 2007), 转信

letter from a professor majored in ME,U OF MICHIGAN,US



I would like to inform you of the situation relevant to Chinese graduate
students here, at least at our department, which makes it very difficult for
us to accept graduate students from China in the future.

Over about one year period, we have had 6 Chinese Ph.D. students quit their
RAship and Ph.D. studies. The reason for them to leave was not that they
could not continue, it was rather because they want to have a job now (a
higher salary, with a hope that the companies will apply for their green
card status). They came with thier promises to pursue their Ph.D. degrees,
we paid tuition for them to take courses for their Master degree, and we
taught and helped them in their research capabilities. Once they got their
M.S. degree in Mechanical Engeering, because of the excellent job market in
the U.S. at this time, it is relatively easy for them to find a job. In a
way we felt that we were used as a step for those Chinese students to come
here, and get their master's degree, then get their jobs. We pay
approximately $45-50 K/year for each Ph.D. student, including the tuition,
health insurance, various fees, lab and computer fees, and monthly salary,
we also put a lot of time and efforts for them. They (most of them) also did
good research work as assistants. However, we don't get credit because we
don't produce PH.D's, which is one of our major purposes as an institution
of high education. On the other hand, they have their particular interests
which are also understandable, for example, financial pressure, and wishes
to have their green card applications on the way asap.

This situation also happened to my Chinese Ph.D.student. He is very talented
and did a good job in research. However, after he got his M.S. in M.E., he
resigned very recently. We still let him stay here presently (with salary)
for one more month, otherwise he will have to repay his tuition, which is
over $10K. Although we are very considerate for those students, the
consequencies are obvious:

(1) It greatly degraded the reputation of Chinese graduate students who
apply for admission. Some professors address those as "very unethical", "you
really cannot trust them when they promise you to pursue their Ph.D. degrees
under your supervision", " you feel you are so stupid as cheated by your own
student". It really created some resentment. Actually, I know, as of this
time, there are a couple of more students looking for a job or already got a
job offer, but not telling their advisors. They will quit at the last minute
before they leave. This situation will certainly get backfired, and the
damadge will mostly be transferred onto the future applicants from China.

(2) Some professors or research scientists have already made their decisions
not to consider Chinese student applications. Although it should not and
cannot be a policy, it is the individual's decision in selecting future
Ph.D. students with preference, and in my opinion, with good reasons. It
will make it much more difficult for us to bring in Ph.D. students from
China. For example, as you know, I was looking for one or two Ph.D. students
later this year, and I have a vacancy for a Ph.D. student now. But I will
not consider Chinese applicants. At the same time I feel truely sorry, for I
know, especially many graduate students from Tsinghua University of very
high qualifications sent email applications to me (and to other professors),
including yourself. Now I have to inform you that please try your
applications elsewhere, or other professors.

In our department, many Chinese graduate students know me and we have a very
friendly relationships. The faculty members know that too. One told me: "You
try to help them, then they screw you up!"

I spent time to write this email message, for your information and
considerations, as to how this situation may be somehow alleviated. You may
discuss this with your close friends and classmates, I am not sure you
should broadly propagate this message. But I did present a fact and an
opinion.

一声叹息

诚信问题啊

太丢中国人的脸了   中国人的素质确实有待提高

动机不纯啊~
把中国学生的名声都搞臭了
所以,不想搞学术的就老老实实地呆在国内吧!

这样也好,把某些出去就不回来的,全都留下来了.
其实绿卡真的很好么?

唉……真的只能叹息了……

读一半跑人
就不要申PH.D嘛

哎
真是无语

听清华学长说他一同学在caltech还没待半年就去华尔街了。。。把那老板气死了，说再也不跟中国人打交道了。。。

受害者都是后来人阿~~好像现在不少学校这样的情况都很严重了，愁

还能说什么呢。

很多人出国的目的就是去挣钱啊..

昨天在thu的bbs上面看到了 就是说THU的学生的

In a
way we felt that we were used as a step for those Chinese students to come
here, and get their master's degree, then get their jobs.
前辈们又封了我们的路了

好多人只重视眼前的利益~~~~
根本不适合做研究~~~~